That is a pretty good question that is often asked to me when talking to customers about a vacation fishing trip. The most popular trip is the the 6 hour that incorporates some bottom fishing and some trolling on the way out to the fishing grounds and back in. We see kids if all ages that really like this trip and it’s a good mix if riding offshore and seeing the sights as well as fishing and fun.

We will catch lots if different species such as a variety of snapper, triggerfish, mackerel and some other surprises along the way. The truth is most if the kids do better than the adults as the are so excited and ready to go.

We have nice boat that is clean and safe with a progressional full time crew. We fish full time year round and offer world class service that you will find assuring. I book all the trips my self and run 90% of the trips unless in off trying work in fishery management issues.

I welcome you to give us a call text message it email and I’ll try to help anyway I can. I do own and operate the boat and sometime get out of phone range so be a little patient with me while I may be offshore

Posted by: Johnny Greene | June 8, 2014

Need more information about deep sea fishing trips?

As everyone knows social media has taken over all forms of business with regards to advertising. We have tried to keep up with this movement and have begun using Facebook for our daily fishing reports.

We also make attempts to update our Twitter and Instagram pages as well, but I must admit I’m a little behind the curve on both of these.

We have been focusing our efforts toward catching you as many fish as possible and or coming out with new innovative ideas that you were sure to like. Feel free to like, share, retweet and Insta whatever is to your buddies and friends!


OrangeBeachFishing on Instagram however that works!

I guess you should be proud that I am not a social media guru but I am a pretty good fisherman. I look forward to seeing you on your next fishing trip sometime soon.
Article by Capt. Johnny Greene


Well this about the best description of what we are up against in the fishing industry right now. None of this precludes us from going fishing and having fun, it jay keeps us from harvesting certain species in normally open times if the year.

2014 Gulf of Mexico Recreational Fishing Closures and Accountability Measures

Why are many recreational fishing seasons for reef fish being closed or shortened?

Federal regulations require most federally managed species to have an annual catch limit. An annual catch limit is the amount of fish that can be caught by fishermen in a fishing year.
Most federally managed species also have accountability measures which are management measures intended to prevent catch limits from being exceeded or mitigate overages if they occur.
If the catch limit is exceeded, accountability measures are triggered.
For many Gulf reef fish species, accountability measures include shortening the fishing season in the following year if the catch limit is exceeded in the prior year to ensure landings do not exceed the annual catch limit or annual catch target.
Annual catch targets are catch levels set below the annual catch limit and are typically used for stocks that are depleted (overfished) and in need of rebuilding.
Additionally, some species that are depleted require overages to be paid back in the following fishing year, resulting in catch limits and catch targets being reduced.

Recreational catch limits for Gulf of Mexico red snapper, red grouper, gray triggerfish, and greater amberjack were exceeded in 2013.
Combined commercial and recreational catch limits for Gulf of Mexico hogfish and Spanish mackerel were also exceeded.

What were the landings, annual catch limits, and annual catch targets for recreationally caught species exceeding their annual catch limits in 2013?

Annual Catch Target
Annual Catch Limit
Gray triggerfish
217,100 lbs ww
241,200 lbs ww
524,605 lbs ww
Greater amberjack
1,130,000 lbs ww
1,299,000 lbs ww
1,566,488 lbs ww
208,000 lbs ww
251,034 lbs ww
Red Grouper
1,730,000 lbs gw
1,900,000 lbs gw
2,392,112 lbs gw
Red Snapper
5,390,000 lbs ww
9,541,327 lbs ww
Spanish mackerel
5,150,000 lbs1
5,912,344 lbs
(Spanish mackerel has a combined commercial and recreational annual catch limit.)

Where can I find more information on the recreational landings for a season?

Landings are summarized on the NOAA Fisheries Southeast Regional Office website at:
Landings are from the Marine Recreational Information Program, the Southeast Headboat Survey, the Texas Parks and Wildlife’s recreational creel survey, and the Southeast Fisheries Science Center’s commercial quota monitoring program.

What are the accountability measures for species that exceeded their annual catch limits?

Gray Triggerfish and Greater Amberjack
Because both of these species are overfished, accountability measures require the annual catch limit and annual catch target to be reduced in the following year by the amount of the previous year’s catch limit overage.
Additionally, when recreational landings reach or are projected to reach the annual catch target for these species, NOAA Fisheries must close the fishery for the remainder of the year.

Red Grouper
When recreational landings reach or are projected to reach the annual catch limit for red grouper, NOAA Fisheries must close the fishery for the remainder of the year; and
If recreational red grouper landings exceed the annual catch limit, NOAA Fisheries must maintain the annual catch target at the level of the prior year’s annual catch target and reduce the bag limit by one fish (from 4 to 3 in 2014).

Hogfish and Spanish Mackerel
If the sum of commercial and recreational landings exceeds the total catch limit for these species, then during the following fishing year, if the sum of commercial and recreational landings reaches or is projected to reach the total catch limit, NOAA Fisheries will close the commercial and recreational sectors for the remainder of that fishing year.

Red Snapper
NOAA Fisheries is required to close red snapper when the recreational quota is met or projected to be met.
Additionally, in 2014 an annual catch target was set 20% less than the annual catch limit to increase the likelihood that a quota overage does not occur.

Are changes to the Marine Recreational Information Program survey responsible for so many annual catch limits being exceeded?

New Marine Recreational Information Program estimates are more accurate and less biased than those produced previously. The Marine Recreational Information Program redesigned the dockside angler intercept survey in March 2013 to provide better coverage of the variety of fishing trips ending at different times of day.
Assuming the new survey methodology eliminated past biases, the new estimates might not be directly comparable to 2013 catch limits or other management reference points and may be in part responsible for some annual catch limits being exceeded. However, other factors may also be responsible for higher landings in 2013. For instance, overall Gulf-wide fishing effort was up 8% compared to 2012 and scientific data indicates a strong year-class of red grouper is entering the fishery.

Gray Triggerfish
Why was the gray triggerfish recreational sector closed so early in 2014?

The recreational annual catch limit was exceeded by more than double in 2013. Accountability measures require NOAA Fisheries to deduct the overage off of the following year’s annual catch limit and annual catch target. Because of the magnitude of the 2013 overage, the annual catch limit and annual catch target for recreational gray triggerfish in 2014 was set to zero; therefore, requiring NOAA Fisheries to close the recreational sector.
Why did NOAA Fisheries not close recreational gray triggerfish earlier in 2013 to prevent such a large overage?
In 2012, the recreational gray triggerfish sector was closed in June.
In 2013, projections completed early in the year indicated the recreational sector should close again in early June. However, at the time the recreational sector was projected to close, only 18% of annual catch target had been reported landed. NOAA Fisheries decided to wait until landings were available through June, but receipt of those landings estimates was delayed due to ongoing improvements to the Marine Recreational Information Program survey. When landings estimates through June were received in early fall it was determined the annual catch target was close to being met, therefore NOAA Fisheries closed the recreational sector on October 15, 2013. Furthermore, high levels of landings were reported in September and October, resulting in a large catch limit overage.

Why is NOAA Fisheries now closing recreational gray triggerfish in spring or early summer, when in previous years there were no closures?

Based on the results of a 2011 population assessment, NOAA Fisheries and the Gulf of Mexico Fishery Management Council (Council) determined gray triggerfish was not rebuilding according to the rebuilding plan and remained overfished.
The Council developed a suite of actions intended to allow gray triggerfish to rebuild within the rebuilding plan timeline; this included a reduction in the annual catch limit and annual catch target.
The reduced annual catch limits and annual catch targets are being met more quickly, resulting in earlier in-season closures.
Red Grouper

Why is NOAA Fisheries now closing recreational red grouper in-season, when there have not been closures in previous years?

Annual catch limits for red grouper in prior years have not been exceeded, allowing the recreational red grouper fishing season to remain open until the end of the year.
Based on a 2009 stock assessment, red grouper were determined to not be overfished or undergoing overfishing, and the stock was increasing in abundance.
Recognizing that recreational fishing opportunities could be increased, the Gulf of Mexico Fishery Management Council chose to increase the bag limit from 2 to 4 fish, beginning in 2012. Landings in 2012 increased substantially compared to previous years, and were 96% of the catch limit. Landings in 2013 exceeded the catch limit by 26%, triggering this year’s reduction to the bag limit and fishery closure.

When is the red grouper recreational sector expected to close in 2014?

The red grouper recreational catch limit is estimated to be met by September 16, 2014.
NOAA Fisheries will continue to monitor landings in season and will make adjustments to the closure date, as needed.
Instead of implementing a lengthy closure for red grouper why not reduce the bag limit to two fish?
Accountability measures for red grouper only allow NOAA Fisheries to reduce the bag limit by one fish. The red grouper bag limit of 3 fish became effective May 5, 2014.
Reducing the bag limit from 4 to 2 fish would require action by the Gulf of Mexico Fishery Management Council.
A 2-fish bag limit would extend the season longer than a 3-fish bag limit, but may still result in the recreational sector being closed at the end of the year if landings in 2014 are similar to landings in 2013.

Greater Amberjack
What are the annual catch limits and annual catch targets for greater amberjack in 2014 and when is the recreational sector expected to close?

Recreational catches of greater amberjack have approached or exceeded the annual catch limit in two of the last four years, resulting in adjusted catch limits where the overages have been subtracted from the next year’s quota.
The 2013 greater amberjack recreational catch limit was exceeded by 267,488 lbs. Annual catch limits and annual catch targets for 2014 were reduced by this same amount to 1,031,512 lbs and 862,512 lbs, respectively.
NOAA Fisheries has not determined a closure date for the recreational greater amberjack sector and will continue to monitor landings in season. If catches are similar to those in 2013, the recreational greater amberjack sector is expected to close in late summer.

Hogfish and Spanish Mackerel
When will the hogfish and Spanish mackerel recreational sectors close in 2014?

The Spanish mackerel recreational sector is not expected to close in 2014/15 despite last year’s overage because the catch limit for Spanish mackerel is being significantly increased this year through new rulemaking.
NOAA Fisheries has not determined the closure date for hogfish and will continue to monitor landings in season. If catches are similar to those in 2013, hogfish is expected to close this fall.

Red Snapper
When is the 2014 recreational red snapper open in federal waters?

The 2014 recreational red snapper season in federal waters begins June 1, 2014, at 12:01 a.m., local time and closes June 10, 2014, at 12:01 a.m., local time.
Why is the recreational season length 9 days instead of the 40-day season announced in December 2013?
In March 2014, a U.S. District Court ruled, in part, that NOAA Fisheries failed to require adequate accountability measures for the recreational sector to ensure the recreational quota was not exceeded. The Court also found NOAA Fisheries failed to use the best scientific information available by not using the 2013 Marine Recreational Information Program data to determine if quota remained to allow for an additional fall season.
The Gulf of Mexico Fishery Management Council requested this emergency rule at their April 2014 meeting to better ensure red snapper recreational landings do not exceed the recreational quota established in the rebuilding plan, in accordance with the Magnuson-Stevens Fishery Conservation and Management Act and the Court’s ruling.
The inconsistent state seasons account for nearly half of the total recreational quota.
Taking these extended state seasons into account, and establishing a recreational annual catch target by applying the 20-percent buffer, reduced the federal season to 11 days. Subsequently, Louisiana extended their state-water season, which required a further reduction in the federal season to 9 days.
For more information about how the recreational season was calculated go to the 2014 red snapper season length report in Appendix B (page 76) at:

Was the recreational annual catch limit for gag exceeded in 2013?

No, the recreational annual catch limit for gag of 1.495 million pounds was not exceeded in 2013. Recreational landings totaled 1.467 million pounds, or 98% of the annual catch limit.

What will the recreational annual catch limit be for gag in 2014 and when will the gag recreational season open and close?
The recreational annual catch limit for gag is 1.72 million pounds and the recreational annual catch target for gag is 1.519 million pounds.
Recreational accountability measures for gag require NOAA Fisheries to close the recreational sector when the annual catch limit is met or projected to be met.
The gag recreational season opens in federal waters on July 1, 2014, and will remain open until December 3, 2014, unless the annual catch limit is met or projected to be met before that date.

Vermilion Snapper
Recreational landings of vermilion snapper were much higher in 2013 than in previous years? Will there be a recreational closure for vermilion snapper?

At this time, the vermilion snapper recreational sector is not projected to close in 2014.
Marine Recreational Information Program landings of vermilion snapper in 2013 were nearly double those reported in 2012.
Despite this large increase in recreational landings, the combined commercial and recreational annual catch limit for vermilion snapper of 3.42 million pounds was not exceeded.
NOAA Fisheries will continue to monitor vermilion snapper landings in-season. If combined commercial and recreational vermilion snapper landings reach or are project to reach the annual catch limit, then NOAA Fisheries will close the commercial and recreational sectors for the remainder of the year.

About Gulf of Mexico Fishery Management Council
The Gulf of Mexico Fishery Management Council is one of eight regional Fishery Management Councils established by the Fishery Conservation and Management Act of 1976. The Council prepares fishery management plans, which are designed to manage fishery resources within the 200-mile limit of the Gulf of Mexico.

Posted by: Johnny Greene | May 22, 2014

Red snapper season announced for 2014 (part 2)

Late last week, the National Marine Fisheries Service announced the 2014 federal red snapper season would open June 1st and close at midnight June 9th.

This closure is very unfortunate for some anglers but it is good for other people who may not have been able book a charter due to the snapper season being all booked up. I have booked several groups in the last week that just want to go catch what ever they can and have fun. This will be the future of this business and is something that we should have embraced a long time ago.

We will make the best of whatever comes our way. There are some new ideas coming down the pipe that maybe just as in Mick Jagger “sometimes you may not get what you want, but you get what we need”.

Article by Capt.Johnny Greene


Well unfortunately, triggerfish season will close for the remainder of the year. I really think that was going to happen this year, however with the recent lawsuit against the National Marine Fisheries Service mandating that we used the new MRIP landings survey as the best available science, I guess it we will be applied to all recreationally caught fish not just red snapper.

The first half of triggerfish season in 2013 the bag limit was 20 per person and when it reopened August 1, it was at 2 per person due to a regulatory framework amendment to the fishery management plan. I knew there would possibly have been an overage but was hopeful that with the new bag limits in place , we would have been able to fish through the current year with that considerable reduction in place.

Triggerfish and amberjack are the only only two of the federally managed species that have a direct pay back provision within their fisheries. The season will reopen in 2015 with most likely a two fish per person bag limit


Posted by: Johnny Greene | April 19, 2014

Red snapper fishing 2014 season

Well as some of you know the current Red Snapper issue has been coming for a long time as many of us have talked about it at length.
I am very humbled by all of you guys that have told me that you are coming fishing regardless of what we can keep, we just want to have fun and we will work to make it as enjoyable as
possible for you.

We know that with out great customers and friends like y’all we would not get to go fishing and we genuinely appreciate it.

My goal has always been to have fun, keep what we can keep and release the rest to fight another day. We will continue to promote these ideals whether snapper is in season or not. We will have some new things to try on the various trips we offer but others will remain basically unchanged

I think this super short season will be the big fundamental change that we need to help fix the problem of the ever shrinking red snapper season. Moving forward there are some big changes in store that I believe you will find very interesting and will come to embrace.

As most of you know, I have been very heavily involved in the management process and pledge to continue working toward a positive solution for us all. I know recently, I have had hundreds if not thousands of emails, calls and texts and truly appreciate the support that y’all have pledged year after year with the repeat trips each year

I know that most of you guys don’t really care much about snapper and have really taken the spring, fall and winter trips around snapper season but there are some guys who do like snapper and we are working hard towards some new innovative ideas for you guys to enjoy them.

We will not be fishing tomorrow as we will be in church with our families and hope to see y’all soon.

Capt Johnny Greene

Posted by: Johnny Greene | April 18, 2014

Fishing Report For January 20th, 2014

The latest report for the charterboat intimidator is that we are off of drydocking back in the water. Well we have completed the underwater and exterior work on the boat. We’re getting ready to start tackling some of the stuff on the inside of the boat such as updating the TV stereo and entertainment center for some of those long boat rides.

We have just ordered several thousand pounds of lead for sinkers and will be pouring them in the mornings while it’s cool out side

The 2014 fishing season is finally here. Our season usually always begins with the spring break crowd as they dig their way out of the snow to find their way to the beautiful beaches to enjoy some milder temperatures and of course some great fishing.

What has been the coldest longest winter I have seen in my 23 year career we’re officially ready and have finally started fishing. We have made many repairs and updated all of the necessary maintenance items to the Intimidator.

For the next several weeks to a month but do not anticipate offering any 4 hour trolling charters. Quite simply the water has been so cold this winter there is not really anything in close enough for us to catch.

The half-day or six hour trips have been pretty decent, but you can tell that the water is cold as the fish of been a little sluggish to bite. But, if you sit there long enough to keep the bait in the water and remain patient they will start to bite and you can have a good trip

We have also-ran some full day charters and have been able to get offshore far enough to find some warmer , deeper water and we have done well with them. We have caught some triggerfish, vermillion snapper, amberjack, scamp along with a few white snapper. Between now and April 4th if you contact me directly,contact me directly
I can offer you a spring break special on a full day charter.

We have not ran any overnight charter ship, and haven’t heard any offshore reports at this time. However, the end of April will start a pretty good run of multiple day charters of which I expect them to be very productive for yellowfin, blackfin along with amberjack, and scamp.

As always, make sure to book early to ensure that you get the date you are looking for when you arrive. We still have dates available for the 2014 snapper season but not very many.

I’m always available to answer any questions that you may have in regards to a fishing charter. Click the link above to contact me directly.

Article by Capt. Johnny Greene



Posted by: Johnny Greene | January 23, 2014

New info on the age of Great White Sharks

This is some pretty cool new info from NOAA about the age of Great White Sharks. I would have never thought that they would have lived that long. I don’t think that I have ever seen but just one in my career we were south of Orange Beach about 100 miles when it swam under the boat while we on a two-day trip catching tunas. ~ ┬áCapt. Johnny Greene

Radiocarbon Dating Suggests White Sharks Can Live 70 Years and Longer

A great white shark, also known as a white shark.
Adult white sharks, also known as great whites, may live far longer than previously thought, according to a new study that used radiocarbon dating to find age estimates for white sharks in the Northwest Atlantic Ocean.

Sharks are typically aged by counting alternating opaque and translucent band pairs deposited in sequence in their vertebrae. It is unclear whether these band pairs are deposited annually, making it difficult to accurately estimate age or give estimates for longevity for many shark species.

The goal of the white shark ageing study, published January 8 in PLOS ONE, was to determine the periodicity of banned pair deposition in vertebrae of white sharks from the Northwest Atlantic Ocean using radiocarbon dating. Once validated, the band pair counts can give a method for determining minimum estimates of longevity in white shark populations.

This first successful radiocarbon age-validation study analyzed vertebrae from four male and four female white sharks (Carcharodon carcharias) caught between 1967 and 2010 in the Northwest Atlantic Ocean.

“Ageing sharks has traditionally relied on counting growth band pairs, like tree rings, in vertebrae with the assumption that band pairs are deposited annually and are related to age,” said Lisa Natanson, a fisheries biologist in the Apex Predators Program at NOAA’s Northeast Fisheries Science Center (NEFSC) and a co-author of the study. “In many cases, this is true for part or all of a species’ life, but at some point growth rates and age are not necessarily in sync. Growth rates slow as sharks’ age. Deposition rates in vertebrae can change once the sharks reach sexual maturity, resulting in band pairs that are so thin they are unreadable. Age so often underestimated. “

Bomb radiocarbon dating is one of the best techniques for age validation in long-lived species like sharks. The technique uses the discrete radiocarbon pulse in the environment caused by the detonation of nuclear bombs in the 1950s and 1960s as a “time stamp”. Radiocarbon levels incorporated into the band pairs are measured and related to a reference chronology to figure the absolute age of a fish and can also be used to confirm or refute annual age in a species.

In this study, researchers from NOAA’s Northeast Fisheries Science Center (NEFSC) and the Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution (WHOI) compared radiocarbon values from the shark vertebrae with reference chronologies documenting the marine uptake of carbon 14 produced by the atmospheric bomb testing. Samples were dated at the National Ocean Sciences Accelerator Mass Spectrometry Facility at WHOI. The result was the first radiocarbon age estimates for adult white sharks.

Estimated bomb radiocarbon dating age of the oldest female white shark sampled was 40, and for the oldest male 73. Ages for the three other males were 9, 14, and 44, while the other females sampled had estimated ages of 6, 21, and 32.

Previous studies of white sharks from the Pacific and Indian Oceans suggested that none of the examined specimens were older than 23 years. Also, none of these earlier studies were able to document annual periodicity of the band pairs used to assign age.

Natanson and colleagues suggest that either white sharks are living much longer and growing slower in the Northwest Atlantic than either the Pacific or Indian Oceans, or longevity has been underestimated in earlier studies.

Knowledge is limited about the age and growth rates of white sharks, apex predators that live in coastal and offshore waters throughout the world. White sharks are considered vulnerable under the International Union for Conservation of Nature (IUCN) Red List of Threatened Species and are protected via international trade agreements and conventions.

Sharks are long-lived animals that grow slowly and do not produce many young. In many parts of the world they are fished commercially, requiring age and growth data for conservation and management efforts. Validation of age in shark species is also critical in understanding their longevity as well as in estimating vital rates such as age at maturity, lifetime fecundity or fertility, growth rates, and differences in growth between males and females.

The shark vertebral samples for this study were provided by Natanson from the Apex Predators Program, which maintains one of the largest collections of North Atlantic white shark vertebrae. The Apex Predators Program, at the NEFSC’s Narragansett Laboratory in Rhode Island, collects basic demographic information about sharks and their life histories by conducting research on their distribution and migration patterns, age and growth, reproductive biology, and feeding ecology.

Natanson has studied sharks for years and has authored or co-authored many studies to decide┬áthe age and growth estimates for tiger, sandbar, mako and other shark species. She has published many reports on general life history aspects of various shark species, routinely collects samples from fishermen and at tournaments, and heads the program’s coastal shark survey, which was most recently conducted in 2012. The survey is the oldest continuing survey of large coastal sharks in the U.S. Atlantic Ocean.

With lifespan estimates of 70 years and more, white sharks may be among the longest-lived fishes. Sharks that mature late, have long life spans and produce small litters have the lowest population growth rates and the longest generation times. Increased age at maturity would make white sharks more sensitive to fishing pressure than previously thought, given the longer time needed to rebuild white shark populations.

Study authors, in addition to Lisa Natanson from NOAA, included Li Ling Hamady and Simon Thorrold from WHOI and Greg Skomal from the Massachusetts Division of Marine Fisheries. Hamady is a Ph.D. candidate in the MIT/WHOI Joint Program in Oceanography.

Contact: Shelley Dawicki
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Posted by: Johnny Greene | January 3, 2014

News and updates for January 2014

Well it’s that time of year again where we have to start doing the major work to the boat. Now is when we stop fishing to take the boat out of the water and clean and repair the bottom.

This year we will be going over to Barbers Marina which is very nice sprawling facility just to the north of Orange Beach. We will pull the boat out next week and power wash the bottom and start scraping barnacles off the running gear before our annual uscg hill side examination. This inspection is required to keep our Certificate of Inspection (COI) current. Basically the COI is the process that allows us to carry more than 6 passengers and is a very thorough inspection.

Once the Coast Guard has completed it’s inspection of the bottom surface and operation of all through hull valves we will remove the propellers and take them down to Tim Warren at A&B compuprop for him to computer balance both of the 34 inch wide 4 blade propellers to keep vibrations to a minimum and fuel economy to a maximum.

After this we will compound and wax the hull sides by hand with Makita buffer. The we go back with hard carnauba wax and polish it. A new coat of Inter-Lux underwater bottom paint to keep the bottom slick and ready to go fishing while we put a hard bottom paint on the stainless running gear to keep them smooth. We will also replace the sacrificial zinc anodes to make sure that there is no electrolysis issues.

This is about a 3 week process as most people fail to realize that the boat is 65 feet down both sides and 20 feet across the back. Ugh, it will make for some long days. Its the not so glamours side if the business that most don’t realize but no business is right? However, it is still a better job than most and when the fish are biting, and you guys are happy it makes it all worth while.

We still have openings for the 2014 season and look forward to see y’all then. In the mean while we have a spare buffet for you if you’re bored!

Thanks to all of you for reading this and make sure to like my Facebook page and share if you don’t mind. We still have plenty of T-shirts and seasoning available too.

Written by capt Johnny Greene

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